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Poster: jessandra Date: Nov 27, 2009 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

I somehow doubt everyone here has perfect little deadhead children and was curious about what music your kids listen to and what you might find 'hard to handle' ?

My 7 year olds have always loved dancing & listening to our music, including tons of GD, and they are singing or humming all the time. Last Christmas they both got their own radio/cd players and of course have since become exposed to top 40 and other so called music.

Often, one comes running out of her room - Mommy, daddy come here - what song is that, or who sings this . I originally thought they had pretty good taste for their age as the songs were from Queen, the Beatles, Mamas & Papas, Razorlight etc. Until Michael Jackson died and his music was played 24/7 on the radio. OK - they're just kids, I can handle that I guess.

But now one daughter has started rapping and the other one is listening to Lady Gaga and all kinds of people I've never even heard of. I'm talking about music that doesn't even have a melody or a single guitar.

Am I the only one going through this? What happens when they are old enough and I have to take them to a concert of THEIR choice? OMG ;-)

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Nov 29, 2009 1:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: why do you think you're kids don't listen and everything you say makes them cringe?

PAYBACK'S A BITCH.

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Poster: Ich esse menschlichen Dumb gegen Date: Nov 29, 2009 5:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: why do you think you're kids don't listen and everything you say makes them cringe?

Sie haben einen Mund die Größe eines Tunnels

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Nov 29, 2009 11:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: why do you think you're kids don't listen and everything you say makes them cringe?

לך תזדיין

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Poster: Ich esse menschlichen Dumb gegen Date: Nov 29, 2009 5:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: why do you think you're kids don't listen and everything you say makes them cringe?

Sie sind die Hündin. Haben Sie jemals denke, dieser Hund Sie 20 ist nicht ihr Geschlecht Typ ?

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Nov 29, 2009 11:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: why do you think you're kids don't listen and everything you say makes them cringe?

You are the bitch. Did you ever think that this dog, you is not 20 their sex type?

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Nov 27, 2009 4:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

interesting post, my "kids" are now young adults who went through a few stages similar to yours, now they listen to almost everything...and yes, some of it is pretty horrid although i notice they are as likely to listen to retro (60's>...) as they are to spin the new shit

if anything, there seems to be less of a general music appreciation gap between them and me when compared with the disagreements between my parents and myself regarding the very different eras of jazz we listen to

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Poster: qbividp Date: Nov 27, 2009 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

When da Boyz first were exposed it was "Music Never Stopped". Apparently, fish like too. Was a grateful catch that night @ The Old Fisherman's Club. Their first all night fishing adventure w/ Uncle Kryss. Then the last dl of mine after Hong Kong was 5.15.70, 6 disc w/ NRPS both SBD shows with all 4 sets. I think they ghost rode the rest and developed their direction as Mickey. One even received the John Philip Souza his Senior year. Not to bad for a drummer.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Nov 27, 2009 2:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

I don't have kids but it's definitely disconcerting to hear what music is so popular these days. Endless references to getting fucked up, getting and spending money, and so much sex...

Anyway, that song "Just Dance" by Lady Gaga really bothers me... just gonna post the lyrics and you can decide for yourself:

"Just Dance"
(feat. Colby O'Donis)

A red one
Konvict
Gaga

I've had a little bit too much
All of the people start to rush.
Start to rush by.
A dizzy twister dance
Can't find my drink or man.
Where are my keys, I lost my phone.
What's going on on the floor?
I love this record baby, but I can't see straight anymore.
Keep it cool what's the name of this club?
I can't remember but it's alright, alright.

[Chorus:]
Just dance. Gonna be okay.
Da-doo-doo-doo
Just dance. Spin that record babe.
Da-doo-doo-doo
Just dance. Gonna be okay.
Duh-duh-duh-duh
Dance. Dance. Dance. Just dance.

Wish I could shut my playboy mouth.
How'd I turn my shirt inside out? Inside out, right.
Control your poison babe
Roses have thorns they say.
And we're all gettin' hosed tonight.
What's going on on the floor?
I love this record baby, but I can't see straight anymore.
Keep it cool what's the name of this club?
I can't remember but it's alright, alright.

[Chorus]

[Colby O'Donis]
When I come through on the dance floor checking out that catalogue.
Can't believe my eyes so many women without a flaw.

And I ain't gonna' give it up, steady tryna pick it up like a call
I'm gonna hit it, I'm gonna hit it and flex and do it until tomorrow, yeah
Shorty i can see that you got so much energy
The way you twirling up them hips round and round
There's no reason at all why you can't leave here with me
In the meantime stay, let me watch you break it down.

[Chorus]

Half Psychotic, Sick hypnotic got my blueprint its symphonic.
Half Psychotic, sick hypnotic got my blueprint electronic.
Half Psychotic, Sick hypnotic got my blueprint its symphonic.
Half Psychotic, sick hypnotic got my blueprint electronic.

Go. Use your muscle, carve it out, work it, hustle
I got it, just stay close enough to get it
Don't slow! Drive it, clean it lysol, bleed it
Spend the last dough
(I got it)
In your Pocko
(I got it)

[Chorus]

I guess as I was growing up we had 112 singing "We Can Do It Anywhere" on the radio:


Here we are all alone
You and me,
Privacy
And we can do anything
Your fantasy
I wanna make your dreams come true
Can you hear?
She's calling me
Between your legs Loud and clear
I wanna talk back to her
Make love to her
I wanna hear you scream my name

We can make love in the bedroom
floating on top of my waterbed
I'm kissing you
Running my fingers through your hair
In the hallway
Making our way beside the stairs
We can do it anywhere...
I can love you in the shower
Both of our bodies dripping wet
On the patio we can make a night you won't forget
On the kitchen floor
As I softfully pull your hair
We can do it anywhere, anywhere...

I love the way your body feels
On top of mine so take your time
We got all night
Girl, you know I like it slow
And I know you like it too, baby
Please don't stop I feel it now
You feel it, too
You're shivering
Ooh, you put me close to you
Just let it flow
There's no other place to go

We can make love in the bedroom
floating on top of my waterbed
I'm kissing you
Running my fingers through your hair
In the hallway
Making our way beside the stairs
We can do it anywhere...
I can love you in the shower
Both of our bodies dripping wet
On the patio we can make a night you won't forget
On the kitchen floor
As I softfully pull your hair
We can do it anywhere, anywhere...

[Zane]
Z too hot to stop
So we goin' from the bedroom to the floor
Let you know a nigga miss you when out on tour
When our tongues touch
Have a playboy thinkin' so much
Roll a Dutch,
Let me tell you it turns me on
When 112 sing to you
What kinda feeling do it bring to you?
I pump hard till you say I'm being mean to you
I know the ice Roley gleam to you
A true playa's what I seem to you
And if you want it
We can do it in the Black 500
Wit' the top down
In overdrive when we ride cuz I'm hot now
You got me goin',
I don't think I wanna stop now
Z feenin' like a criminal on lockdown
So let's get a way to get away
You gettin' hot baby, please don't melt away
I got a crib on the beach Palmetto-way
And here's your personal key to see me everyday
112...


(Repeat until songs fades)

We can make love in the bedroom
floating on top of my waterbed
I'm kissing you
Running my fingers through your hair
In the hallway
Making our way beside the stairs
We can do it anywhere...
I can love you in the shower
Both of our bodies dripping wet
On the patio we can make a night you won't forget
On the kitchen floor
As I softfully pull your hair
We can do it anywhere, anywhere...

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Nov 27, 2009 6:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Am I the only one going through this? What happens when they are old enough and I have to take them to a concert of THEIR choice? OMG ;-)

You smile and you do. Lady Gaga is no different in this time than Madonna was in hers. It's basically just a show and I think if you have a good relationship with your kids, they'll know how to filter out the stupid stuff. In many ways, hip-hop is just an extension in the long line of black music going back to the '40s. I took my 14 yo son and his pals to see Justin Timberlake and Lil Wayne shows and they were a lot of fun and no one seems damaged. My guy can't imagine anyone taking drugs, so who's to say that we were any better. OTOH, his Health class teacher is having them do a report on LCD and I was able to be an expert source. :)

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 30, 2009 9:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Short answer - yes, some does.

Daughter is 24 and is a typical white middle class female - that is to say her room was a shrine to Tupac, Nelly and assorted other bullet catchers - who listens predominantly to rap. That said, she goes to shows with me quite often - she has seen Dark Star four times with me and pretty much enjoyed everything except the Drums-Space and PITB wanderings. We had a great time at numerous String Cheese Incident shows while she was in college - at least until spinner dancers tried to haul her into the crowd (her straight right is just a little less effective than mine). She is most decidedly unimpressed with today's young hippie crowd - "Eww Daddo, are their parent's like this, are they wannabes or are they just acting out?"

She will never go to see Yonder Mountain String Band with me again.

Railroad Earth was too mellow for her.

JJ Grey and MOFRO she actually still listens to. But she always heads back to her boney thug nonsense. I can only hope she grows out of it.........

Son is 22 and plays in a tech metal band. While I can appreciate the technical skill of the guitar players in the various bands he listens to, the moment they start singing - which sounds more like someone throwing their socks up through their sinus cavities - is an instant fast forward, track change or station change.

He goes to a lot of shows with me as well as music fests - as much for father-son bonding as the tunes. He draws the line at bluegrass though - pretty much has the same view I do of his metal - "Those guys can play their asses off, but I hate the singing."

We were at the 10,000 Lakes music fest a few years ago and had hiked in all of our gear and food. We looked like sherpas with our bedrolls, sleep bivys, tent, camp chairs, collapsible water jugs strapped to our backpacks and carrying our guitars. (Son is an Eagle Scout and the boy knows how to camp) We set up a Kelty Mantra 6 in about 5 minutes, set up the chairs in the tent vestibule and started picking. Then we watched as a group of 4 20 somethings dragged their gear in and started setting up next to us. Pillows, flannel sleeping bags, blankets, Barney day packs (okay, not really Barney) and paper bags of food and water in boxes, cans and bottles. They had a Coleman 7' x 9' dome tent for 4 people!! The tent was still in the box. They finally got it pitched but couldn't figure out the rain fly - and why the long end has to cover the tent openings. We offered to help, they politely declined.

As we headed off to the first show, we noticed they had pushed all of their gear to the walls of the tent - I suggested they pull the gear off the tent sides in case it rained that night - they looked at me like I was insane.

Well, it rained that night. Hard. We were bone dry. At 6 AM we were up and had our two Dragon Fly backpack stoves going - one cooking coffee, one cooking eggs and bacon we had mixed into empty gatorade bottles, frozen and packed in themal sleeves (they will stay frozen enough to be safe for about three days). We heard our neighbors start stirring around 7 AM - they emerged from their tents looking like drowned rats with completely soaked sleeping bags and blankets. The water was an inch deep in the tent and had of course, predictably come in through capillary leakage where their gear was against the tent walls and through the tent floor (no footprint or tarp). They sat on the ground miserably muching away on cold granola bars and drinking bottled water. Every now and then I caught them stealing an envious glance at us and the food on the stove. We let it play for a few minutes and then my son walked over and asked them if they wanted some eggs and bacon. (See, I'm not a cold, heartless bastard conservative all the time) We had enough for all of them and earned their eternal gratitude as well as 24 beer tickets exchanged as barter.

I gave them a small tarp and then we helped unfuck their tent set up and we all had a great couple of days at the rest of the fest.

Bottom line - some of what my kids listen too makes me cringe, some of what I listen to makes them cringe.

But the music experiences we have shared together cannot have a price put on it.

Okay, thaks for allowing the indulgent digression - but it was about the music.

Sorta.....

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Poster: jessandra Date: Dec 1, 2009 1:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Thanks Mandojammer,

Lovely story and I've got what you mean! Thanks for sharing!

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Nov 27, 2009 2:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

You might try these guys. Another "Beatles of kids music". The have a radio show on NPR. You can download episodes (free) from their site if you can't pick them up locally. In the interest of full disclosure, my cousin's husband is one of the brothers. Good clean tie-dye fun...

http://www.zucchinibrothers.com/

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Poster: jessandra Date: Nov 29, 2009 2:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Thanks for all the tips and suggestions - I'll check them out and try to keep somewhat open-minded. I suppose my parents went through the same thing but I honestly don't think the "noise" we listened to was half as bad as some of the stuff today.

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Poster: Ich esse menschlichen Dumb gegen Date: Nov 29, 2009 4:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

VORSICHT Kind diese Musik wird Ihnen Trouble den Rest ihres Lebens. Ihre bevorzugten Dessert wird pussie.

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Nov 29, 2009 4:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

After watching Janis Joplin on the Dick Cavett Show (thanks to a link on here) I've been blasting a lot of that funky lady's music.
My daughter's revenge is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j90Uy0yVGDY&;feature=PlayList&p=2A8D0EA14DDABF12&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 29, 2009 6:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

I have posted the quote from Grace Slick before: "the music kids listen too should make their parents throw up!"

As was discussed at great length, that line makes me cringe because it implies there are no "standards of quality" (here goes the post modernity debate), with which I wholeheartedly disagree.

I think that real "music" should have reflect certain fundamental qualities for "us" to like it, and generally this is true...music that lasts really is generally something we can all listen too (I am not talking fringe).

So, I get Grace's point about necessary "revolutions" each generation, but NO, when I played "Rosalie McFall" to my completely non DEAD parents (who actually are dead, ahem...sorry, mom) they loved it, or when they heard a number of tunes off the AmBeaut album, etc.

Of course, they wouldn't have gone for Jack White, but they could've appreciated his ability while watching him (with the sound turned down).

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Poster: KFW Date: Nov 29, 2009 7:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Guess I'm just a perv. The music I listen to makes my kids (and my friends' kids) throw up much more than vice versa. They shouldn't have played Crazy Frog to me, knowing I'd love it for years instead of being annoyed by it, and the hard techno version of Badger, Badger is STILL in my playlist. If they play Slayer, I play Caninus or Cannibal Corpse. If they play Madonna or Lada Gaga, I play Lucille Bogan or Fred Wolff. If they play Sonic Youth, I get out the first Chicago Transit Authority album & play Free Form Guitar. And I needn't even mention chiptunes. Or John Oswald (at least one kid's first exposure to Michael Jackson... AND the Grateful Dead - muhahahahaha!)

If you DON'T want your kid to become a Deadhead, make them listen to the music the Dead listened to. A childhood diet of Berio, Doc Watson, and drumming rudiments will GUARANTEE your kid becomes a rapper in retaliation.

And no modern music whatsoever is nearly as annoying as a steady diet of fifties and sixties novelty songs - it's better than the classics for clearing a 7-11 parking lot. I mean, how many times can YOU listen to Wally Cox do "There Is A Tavern In The Town"? or ANYONE do "They're Coming To Take Me Away", in Italian?

Seriously, I think someone needs to rap over "They're Coming To Take Me Away"... it's a great beat.

as for what they actually listen to, one is currently learning Decemberists' covers, and gave up trying to convince me Sonic Youth is genius, but hasn't given up on Radiohead yet - I can't argue with that, Dead or no Dead.

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Poster: Ich esse menschlichen Dumb gegen Date: Nov 29, 2009 6:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Militärgerichtsbarkeit ist zu Gerechtigkeit, was militärische Musik zu Musik ist.

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Poster: vapors Date: Nov 29, 2009 8:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Returned late last night from an 18 hour round trip excursion with my 16 yo riding shotgun. I had brought a varied stack of my own cds thinking I might take the opportunity to further enlighten her, but I was really glad I also bought an adapter that enabled us to play her ipod thru the cassette player, as opposed to her splitting her attention between me and an earpiece in her right ear. A great bonding experience ensued as music is just as important to her as it always has been for me. We had the greatest car ride; our conversation and appreciation flowed as she played dj. I found her stuff very tolerable (the artists’ names didn’t stick with me, and she also has loads of soundtracks from various musicals.)

Jessandra - at seven my kids were enthralled with “Not For Kids Only” – have you tried that one? Although if they are exposed to the stuff you mention it might be too late! (My kids were raised with limited exposure to modern radio/tv )

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Poster: jessandra Date: Nov 29, 2009 10:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Oh goodness yes, Not for Kids Only, has been a fav of theirs for years! So is Reckoning. They each have their own copies and know all the words.

I'm not really worried that their tastes will differ from ours eventually - that's normal, it's just some of the things they are picking up from the radio are just vulgar & horrible and they really are still too young. I can't forbid them to listen to the radio so I am hoping this is just a phase.

We certainly have more control over their TV watching time :-)

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Nov 27, 2009 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

My suggestion for new parents with young kids is to get them some stuff by Justin Roberts and the not ready for naptime players. Seriously, these guys are the beatles of kids music and as a parent it was not painful to listen to especially seeing them live.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Nov 27, 2009 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

Little ones seeem to tune right into Reggae also... Not a bad start!

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Poster: qbividp Date: Nov 27, 2009 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What do your kids listen to? Does it make you cringe?

First one was the hardest "VANILLA ICE", then "BLOODHOUND GANG" was a bit radical, but not it just "SLAYER and HANK WILLIAMS JR.